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Jan: /* On the Hokianga */

2009-07-31T20:27:00Z

On the Hokianga

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	:In September Pompallier used the ''Reine de Paix'' for a visit around the north point of New Zealand to the west coast. He visited Whangaroa where he arranged to buy some land from two settlers. He went to Mangonui where he distributed the newly printed booklets. He then sailed up the Hokianga and bought a hundred acres of land at Purakau, as an alternative for Papakawau which had proved to be unsatisfactory.<ref>Simmons, op. cit. p. 42.</ref> The new site was not developed as a mission centre - there was not even a church built - but served as a place for the missionaries to live and from where it was easier to visit the Maori villages. Strangely enough, Servant, writing to Colin shortly later, does not mention either the bishop’s visit, or the land purchase. As we shall see later, there had been a confrontation with Pompallier, and his letter would go through the bishop’s hands.<ref> Cf. below, p. ~~172f~~.</ref>		:In September Pompallier used the ''Reine de Paix'' for a visit around the north point of New Zealand to the west coast. He visited Whangaroa where he arranged to buy some land from two settlers. He went to Mangonui where he distributed the newly printed booklets. He then sailed up the Hokianga and bought a hundred acres of land at Purakau, as an alternative for Papakawau which had proved to be unsatisfactory.<ref>Simmons, op. cit. p. 42.</ref> The new site was not developed as a mission centre - there was not even a church built - but served as a place for the missionaries to live and from where it was easier to visit the Maori villages. Strangely enough, Servant, writing to Colin shortly later, does not mention either the bishop’s visit, or the land purchase. As we shall see later, there had been a confrontation with Pompallier, and his letter would go through the bishop’s hands.<ref> Cf. below, p. 169f.</ref>

	===Selling the ''Reine de Paix''===		===Selling the ''Reine de Paix''===

Jan: /* Servant writing */

2009-07-31T20:25:07Z

Servant writing

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	:::Your letter of 1 August 1838 has reached me here and it has given me unbelievable joy. I bless God a thousand times for the paternal feelings you express and for the concern you have for my spiritual welfare. How I am touched by your exhortations. How grateful am I for your directions and warnings that make me feel your love for me. I am very happy to live in your memory and in your vigilance.<ref> [[Girard0039\|LRO, doc. 39]] [1].</ref>		:::Your letter of 1 August 1838 has reached me here and it has given me unbelievable joy. I bless God a thousand times for the paternal feelings you express and for the concern you have for my spiritual welfare. How I am touched by your exhortations. How grateful I am for your directions and warnings that make me feel your love for me. I am very happy to live in your memory and in your vigilance.<ref> [[Girard0039\|LRO, doc. 39]] [1].</ref>

Jan: /* On the Hokianga */

2009-07-31T20:00:45Z

On the Hokianga

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	:In September Pompallier used the ''Reine de Paix'' for a visit around the north point of New Zealand to the west coast ~~and~~ the ~~Hokianga area~~. He ~~visited several Maori centres~~ and bought a hundred acres of land at Purakau as an alternative for Papakawau which had proved to be unsatisfactory.<ref>Simmons, op. cit. p. 42.</ref> The new site was not developed as a mission centre - there was not even a church built - but served as a place for the missionaries to live and from where it was easier to visit the Maori villages. Strangely enough, Servant, writing to Colin shortly later, does not mention either the bishop’s visit, or the land purchase. As we shall see later, there had been a confrontation with Pompallier, and his letter would go through the bishop’s hands.<ref> Cf. below, p. 172f.</ref>		:In September Pompallier used the ''Reine de Paix'' for a visit around the north point of New Zealand to the west coast. He visited Whangaroa where he arranged to buy some land from two settlers. He went to Mangonui where he distributed the newly printed booklets. He then sailed up the Hokianga and bought a hundred acres of land at Purakau, as an alternative for Papakawau which had proved to be unsatisfactory.<ref>Simmons, op. cit. p. 42.</ref> The new site was not developed as a mission centre - there was not even a church built - but served as a place for the missionaries to live and from where it was easier to visit the Maori villages. Strangely enough, Servant, writing to Colin shortly later, does not mention either the bishop’s visit, or the land purchase. As we shall see later, there had been a confrontation with Pompallier, and his letter would go through the bishop’s hands.<ref> Cf. below, p. 172f.</ref>


	===Selling the ''Reine de Paix''===		===Selling the ''Reine de Paix''===

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2009-06-21T07:10:04Z

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2009-06-21T07:09:56Z

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Jan: /* Servant writing */

2009-03-28T11:23:56Z

Servant writing

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	:Servant also wrote to his parents who must have expressed concern for his safety and he puts them at rest with this sympathetic picture of the lefe he leads and of the ~~moari~~ people he is engaged with:		:Servant also wrote to his parents who must have expressed concern for his safety and he puts them at rest with this sympathetic picture of the lefe he leads and of the Maori people he is engaged with:

	They like us very much and they would not think of harming us. Living among them is absolutely without danger. When I go visiting their villages, they ask if I am hungry and they find it a pleasure to share their food with me. When you meet them, they want to hold your hand and greet you; sometimes they do so by touching nose to nose, which is an important sign of friendship among them.<ref> [[Girard0041\|LRO, doc. 41]] [3].</ref>


			:::They like us very much and they would not think of harming us. Living among them is absolutely without danger. When I go visiting their villages, they ask if I am hungry and they find it a pleasure to share their food with me. When you meet them, they want to hold your hand and greet you; sometimes they do so by touching nose to nose, which is an important sign of friendship among them.<ref> [[Girard0041\|LRO, doc. 41]] [3].</ref>

	=== Notes ===		=== Notes ===

Jan: /* Selling the ''Reine de Paix'' */

2009-03-28T11:19:32Z

Selling the ''Reine de Paix''

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	They like us very much and they would not think of harming us. Living among them is absolutely without danger. When I go visiting their villages, they ask if I am hungry and they find it a pleasure to share their food with me. When you meet them, they want to hold your hand and greet you; sometimes they do so by touching nose to nose, which is an important sign of friendship among them.<ref> [[Girard0041\|LRO, doc. 41]] [3].</ref>		They like us very much and they would not think of harming us. Living among them is absolutely without danger. When I go visiting their villages, they ask if I am hungry and they find it a pleasure to share their food with me. When you meet them, they want to hold your hand and greet you; sometimes they do so by touching nose to nose, which is an important sign of friendship among them.<ref> [[Girard0041\|LRO, doc. 41]] [3].</ref>

	~~===Selling the ''Reine de Paix''===~~

	:All initiatives Baty and his team had taken, i.e., the detour to Wallis and Futuna, unloadong goods for the missionaries there, leaving the little organ on Futuna, everything had met with the bishop’s disapproval. Ad far as we know he at first said nothing of them spending 11.000 francs to take a fifty per cent share in the ''Reine de Paix''. They must have wondered. It took a few months before he took back the initiative.


	:On his return from the west coast, Pompallier said the ship was unsafe, too long for its width and not sea-worthy. Épalle dutifully agreed: ‘the ship nearly capsized on the North Cape’. In October or November Pompallier caught the captain and the crew drunk on board. He chased them all off the ship and fired them.<ref> [[Girard0059\|LRO, doc. 59]] [32].</ref> Finding himself without captain or crew, he promptly sold the ship for £ 600 to John Roberton.<ref> John Roberton was the man who sold Pompallier a piece of land at the time of the visit of the Venus, in October 1838. On the adventures of the first ship of the Marist missions, cf. Excursus G, below, p. 185.</ref>

	=== Notes ===		=== Notes ===

Jan: /* Servant writing */

2009-03-28T11:18:47Z

Servant writing

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	:~~In September Pompallier used the ''Reine de Paix''~~ for ~~a visit around the north point~~ of ~~New Zealand to~~ the ~~west coast~~ and the ~~Hokianga area. He visited several Maori centres~~ and ~~bought a hundred acres~~ of ~~land at ''Purakau'', as an alternative for ''Papakawau'' which had proved to be unsatisfactory~~. ~~<ref> Simmons, op~~.~~cit. p. 42.</ref> The new site was not developed as a mission centre~~, ~~there was not even~~ a ~~church built~~, ~~but it served as a place for the missionaries~~ to ~~live~~ and ~~from where it was easier~~ to ~~visit the Maori villages. Strangely enough~~, Servant, writing around the same time, does not mention either the bishop’s journey, or the land purchase. As we shall see later, there had been a little confrontation with Pompallier and all letters went through his hands.<ref>~~Cf. below~~, p. ~~172~~.</ref>		:Servant also wrote to his parents who must have expressed concern for his safety and he puts them at rest with this sympathetic picture of the lefe he leads and of the moari people he is engaged with:

			They like us very much and they would not think of harming us. Living among them is absolutely without danger. When I go visiting their villages, they ask if I am hungry and they find it a pleasure to share their food with me. When you meet them, they want to hold your hand and greet you; sometimes they do so by touching nose to nose, which is an important sign of friendship among them.<ref> [[Girard0041\|LRO, doc. 41]] [3].</ref>

	===Selling the ''Reine de Paix''===		===Selling the ''Reine de Paix''===

Jan: /* On the Hokianga */

2009-03-28T11:04:40Z

On the Hokianga

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	:In September Pompallier used the ''Reine de Paix'' for a visit around the north point of New Zealand to the west coast and the Hokianga area. He visited several Maori centres and bought a hundred acres of land at Purakau as an alternative for Papakawau which had proved to be unsatisfactory.<ref>Simmons, op. cit. p. 42.</ref> The new site was not developed as a mission centre - there was not even a church built - but served as a place for the missionaries to live and from where it was easier to visit the Maori villages. Strangely enough, Servant, writing to Colin shortly later, does not mention either the bishop’s visit, ~~nor~~ the land purchase. As we shall see later, there had been a confrontation with Pompallier, and his letter would go through the bishop’s hands.<ref> Cf. below, p. 172f.</ref>		:In September Pompallier used the ''Reine de Paix'' for a visit around the north point of New Zealand to the west coast and the Hokianga area. He visited several Maori centres and bought a hundred acres of land at Purakau as an alternative for Papakawau which had proved to be unsatisfactory.<ref>Simmons, op. cit. p. 42.</ref> The new site was not developed as a mission centre - there was not even a church built - but served as a place for the missionaries to live and from where it was easier to visit the Maori villages. Strangely enough, Servant, writing to Colin shortly later, does not mention either the bishop’s visit, or the land purchase. As we shall see later, there had been a confrontation with Pompallier, and his letter would go through the bishop’s hands.<ref> Cf. below, p. 172f.</ref>


			===Selling the ''Reine de Paix''===


			:All initiatives Baty and his team had taken, for instance, the detour to Wallis and Futuna, unloading goods for the missionaries there, leaving the little organ on Futuna, everything had met with the bishop’s disapproval. As far as we know he at first said nothing of them spending 11.000 francs to take a fifty per cent share in the ''Reine de Paix''! They must have wondered. It took a few months before it became clear what he thought of it.


			:On his return from the west coast Pompallier said the ship was unsafe, too long for its width and not sea-worthy. Épalle dutifully agreed: the ship nearly capsized on the North Cape. In October or November Pompallier caught the captain and the crew drunk on board. He chased them off the ship and fired them. Finding himself without captain or crew, he promptly sold the ship for £ 600 to John Roberton.<ref> [[Girard0059\|LRO, doc. 59]] [32].John Roberton was the man who sold Pompallier a piece of land at the time of the visit of the ''Venus'' in October 1838. On the adventures of this first ship of the Marist missions, cf. Excursus G, below, p. 185.</ref>


			===Servant writing===

	:The newly arrived missionaries had brought parcels of mail and on 15 October Servant took a day off to answer. The letter he had received from Colin must have been in the same spirit as the one to Bataillon that has been preserved. <ref> [[APAC81#Receiving_and_writing_letters\|Above, p. 82,]] CS, doc. 44.</ref> Servant appreciated the firm spiritual guidance from the superior general:		:The newly arrived missionaries had brought parcels of mail and on 15 October Servant took a day off to answer. The letter he had received from Colin must have been in the same spirit as the one to Bataillon that has been preserved. <ref> [[APAC81#Receiving_and_writing_letters\|Above, p. 82,]] CS, doc. 44.</ref> Servant appreciated the firm spiritual guidance from the superior general:

Jan: /* On the Hokianga */

2009-03-28T10:43:20Z

On the Hokianga

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	:When in June 1839 Pompallier moved to Kororareka, and Baty with Brother Elie-Régis joined Servant and Brother Michel in Papakawau, the Hokianga people missed their benefactor. As a result, the chiefs at first had little respect for Servant and Baty. <ref> [[Girard0039\|LRO, doc. 39 [4], doc. 55]] [5].</ref> Some adherents threatened to give up attendance at religious services if the gifts did not keep coming!		:When in June 1839 Pompallier moved to Kororareka, and Baty with Brother Elie-Régis joined Servant and Brother Michel in Papakawau, the Hokianga people missed their benefactor. As a result, the chiefs at first had little respect for Servant and Baty. <ref> [[Girard0039\|LRO, doc. 39 [4], doc. 55]] [5].</ref> Some adherents threatened to give up attendance at religious services if the gifts did not keep coming!


			:In September Pompallier used the ''Reine de Paix'' for a visit around the north point of New Zealand to the west coast and the Hokianga area. He visited several Maori centres and bought a hundred acres of land at Purakau as an alternative for Papakawau which had proved to be unsatisfactory.<ref>Simmons, op. cit. p. 42.</ref> The new site was not developed as a mission centre - there was not even a church built - but served as a place for the missionaries to live and from where it was easier to visit the Maori villages. Strangely enough, Servant, writing to Colin shortly later, does not mention either the bishop’s visit, nor the land purchase. As we shall see later, there had been a confrontation with Pompallier, and his letter would go through the bishop’s hands.<ref> Cf. below, p. 172f.</ref>