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2009-03-28T17:33:51Z

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	:On 18 September Chanel baptized a sick child of Musumusu (a chief close to the king), it dies a week later. On 9 November a small son of Niuliki was seriously ill, Chanel baptized it with the consent of both father and mother, in a full baptismal ceremony in their presence. On 9 December he gave a Christian burial to a grandson of the King that he had baptized. People were moved to tears by the beautiful ritual and said they too wanted to be buried that way.<ref> Marie-Nizier, in a later account,(to Colin, 06.10.44 & 11.12.44, [[Girard0350\|LRO, doc. 350 [7] ]]) says that until the visit of Baty etc. things were alright but ‘that lasted only until the following August or September, when the King turned nasty towards us; first he left us alone, then he stopped giving us food, and forbad people to help us; in the end he told them to steal from us when they could, clothing, fruits of our garden, and that he would not take action against them’. ~~His~~ description does not agree with his own letter of the overall picture that Chanel gives in the diary. Marie-Nizier may have meant August or September the following year (''suivant''), i.e., 1840, or he telescoped later memories~~, possibly coloured by subsequent events~~. ~~His letter of~~ 29.07.45 ~~repeats the same view~~, cf. [[Girard0390\|LRO, doc. 390 [37] ]]. The ~~diary and Chanel’s letters~~ are too detailed to be discarded in favour of Nizier’s later memories~~, possbly coloured by subsequent events~~.</ref>		:On 18 September Chanel baptized a sick child of Musumusu (a chief close to the king), it dies a week later. On 9 November a small son of Niuliki was seriously ill, Chanel baptized it with the consent of both father and mother, in a full baptismal ceremony in their presence. On 9 December he gave a Christian burial to a grandson of the King that he had baptized. People were moved to tears by the beautiful ritual and said they too wanted to be buried that way.<ref> Marie-Nizier, in a later account,(to Colin, 06.10.44 & 11.12.44, [[Girard0350\|LRO, doc. 350 [7] ]]) says that until the visit of Baty etc. things were alright but ‘that lasted only until the following August or September, when the King turned nasty towards us; first he left us alone, then he stopped giving us food, and forbad people to help us; in the end he told them to steal from us when they could, clothing, fruits of our garden, and that he would not take action against them’. This description does not agree with his own letter of that same September to Champagnat, nor with the overall picture that Chanel gives for this period in the diary. Marie-Nizier may have meant August or September the following year (''suivant''), i.e., 1840, or he telescoped later memories of different periods. He repeats the same view to Colin on 29.07.45, cf. [[Girard0390\|LRO, doc. 390 [37] ]]. The documents of the time are too detailed to be discarded in favour of Nizier’s later memories.</ref>

	=== Chanel takes care of his correspondence ===		=== Chanel takes care of his correspondence ===

Jan: /* Futuna */

2009-03-28T16:47:54Z

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	:On 18 September Chanel baptized a sick child of Musumusu (a chief close to the king), it dies a week later. On 9 November a small son of Niuliki was seriously ill, Chanel baptized it with the consent of both father and mother, in a full baptismal ceremony in their presence. On 9 December he gave a Christian burial to a grandson of the King that he had baptized. People were moved to tears by the beautiful ritual and said they too wanted to be buried that way.<ref> Marie-Nizier, in a later account,(to Colin, 06.10.44 & 11.12.44, [[Girard0350\|LRO, doc. 350 [7] ]]) says that until the visit of Baty etc. things were alright but ‘that lasted only until the following August or September, when the King turned nasty towards us; first he left us alone, then he stopped giving us food, and forbad people to help us; in the end he told them to steal from us when they could, clothing, fruits of our garden, and that he would not take action against them’. His description does not agree ~~at all~~ with the overall picture that Chanel gives in the diary. Marie-Nizier may have meant August or September the following year (''suivant''), i.e., 1840, or he telescoped later memories, possibly coloured by subsequent events. His letter of 29.07.45 repeats the same view, cf. [[Girard0390\|LRO, doc. 390 [37] ]]. The diary and Chanel’s letters are too detailed to be discarded in favour of Nizier’s later memories, possbly coloured by subsequent events.</ref>		:On 18 September Chanel baptized a sick child of Musumusu (a chief close to the king), it dies a week later. On 9 November a small son of Niuliki was seriously ill, Chanel baptized it with the consent of both father and mother, in a full baptismal ceremony in their presence. On 9 December he gave a Christian burial to a grandson of the King that he had baptized. People were moved to tears by the beautiful ritual and said they too wanted to be buried that way.<ref> Marie-Nizier, in a later account,(to Colin, 06.10.44 & 11.12.44, [[Girard0350\|LRO, doc. 350 [7] ]]) says that until the visit of Baty etc. things were alright but ‘that lasted only until the following August or September, when the King turned nasty towards us; first he left us alone, then he stopped giving us food, and forbad people to help us; in the end he told them to steal from us when they could, clothing, fruits of our garden, and that he would not take action against them’. His description does not agree with his own letter of the overall picture that Chanel gives in the diary. Marie-Nizier may have meant August or September the following year (''suivant''), i.e., 1840, or he telescoped later memories, possibly coloured by subsequent events. His letter of 29.07.45 repeats the same view, cf. [[Girard0390\|LRO, doc. 390 [37] ]]. The diary and Chanel’s letters are too detailed to be discarded in favour of Nizier’s later memories, possbly coloured by subsequent events.</ref>

	=== Chanel takes care of his correspondence ===		=== Chanel takes care of his correspondence ===

Jan: /* Futuna */

2009-03-28T16:39:17Z

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	:Once Bataillon had left (3 July), the two were on their guard for signs of estrangement. On 8 September Niuliki came and asked for goat’s milk for his sick child, a week later (17 September) he visited them and prepared them a meal. On his way to Asoa Vere, on 16 October, Niuliki walked through Poi and passed the house where the two were present, without calling in. On his way back he walked past again. It was unusual enough to be noted in the diary, but as subsequent events show, relations between Chanel and Niuliki were as friendly as before.<ref> François Roulleaux, later a missionary on Futuna interprets Niuliki walking past the missionaries’ house without calling, as a sign of his growing resistance to the ''lotu. '' Neither the letters Chanel wrote at the time, nor the diary justify this conclusion. Rozier, the editor of Chanel’s writings also disagrees with Roulleaux. Cf. EC, p. 472, n. 5 and p. 483, n. 3. More likely, as Chanel writes, it was connected with the long drought that the ancestral spirits were failing to bring to an end (09.10.39).</ref> On 5 December Chanel ate with the King and the senior chiefs as usual.		:Once Bataillon had left (3 July), the two were on their guard for signs of estrangement. On 8 September Niuliki came and asked for goat’s milk for his sick child, a week later (17 September) he visited them and prepared them a meal. On his way to Asoa Vere, on 16 October, Niuliki walked through Poi and passed the house where the two were present, without calling in. On his way back he walked past again. It was unusual enough to be noted in the diary, but as subsequent events show, relations between Chanel and Niuliki were as friendly as before.<ref> François Roulleaux, later a missionary on Futuna interprets Niuliki walking past the missionaries’ house without calling, as a sign of his growing resistance to the ''lotu. '' Neither the letters Chanel wrote at the time, nor the diary justify this conclusion. Rozier, the editor of Chanel’s writings also disagrees with Roulleaux. Cf. EC, p. 472, n. 5 and p. 483, n. 3. More likely, as Chanel writes, it was connected with the long drought that the ancestral spirits were failing to bring to an end (09.10.39).</ref> On 30 September 1839 Marie-Nizier wrote to Champagnat (in an account of their first reception in 1837): ‘Since that time he has shown us every care and been more attentive to our needs than those of his own children.’<ref>LO, Clisby 011 [10].</ref> On 5 December Chanel ate with the King and the senior chiefs as usual.

Jan: /* Futuna */

2009-01-16T20:40:07Z

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	:On 18 September Chanel baptized a sick child of Musumusu (a chief close to the king), it dies a week later. On 9 November a small son of Niuliki was seriously ill, Chanel baptized it with the consent of both father and mother, in a full baptismal ceremony in their presence. On 9 December he gave a Christian burial to a grandson of the King that he had baptized. People were moved to tears by the beautiful ritual and said they too wanted to be buried that way.<ref> Marie-Nizier, in a later account,(to Colin, 06.10.44 & 11.12.44, [[Girard0350\|LRO, doc. 350 [7] ]]) says that until the visit of Baty etc. things were alright but ‘that lasted only until the following August or September, when the King turned nasty towards us; first he left us alone, then he stopped giving us food, and forbad people to help us; in the end he told them to steal from us when they could, clothing, fruits of our garden, and that he would not take action against them’. His description does not agree at all with the overall picture that Chanel gives in the diary. Marie-Nizier may have meant August or September the following year (''suivant''), i.e., 1840, or he telescoped later memories, possibly coloured by subsequent events. His letter of 29.07.45 repeats the same view, cf. [[Girard0390\|LRO, doc. 390 [37] ]] </ref>		:On 18 September Chanel baptized a sick child of Musumusu (a chief close to the king), it dies a week later. On 9 November a small son of Niuliki was seriously ill, Chanel baptized it with the consent of both father and mother, in a full baptismal ceremony in their presence. On 9 December he gave a Christian burial to a grandson of the King that he had baptized. People were moved to tears by the beautiful ritual and said they too wanted to be buried that way.<ref> Marie-Nizier, in a later account,(to Colin, 06.10.44 & 11.12.44, [[Girard0350\|LRO, doc. 350 [7] ]]) says that until the visit of Baty etc. things were alright but ‘that lasted only until the following August or September, when the King turned nasty towards us; first he left us alone, then he stopped giving us food, and forbad people to help us; in the end he told them to steal from us when they could, clothing, fruits of our garden, and that he would not take action against them’. His description does not agree at all with the overall picture that Chanel gives in the diary. Marie-Nizier may have meant August or September the following year (''suivant''), i.e., 1840, or he telescoped later memories, possibly coloured by subsequent events. His letter of 29.07.45 repeats the same view, cf. [[Girard0390\|LRO, doc. 390 [37] ]]. The diary and Chanel’s letters are too detailed to be discarded in favour of Nizier’s later memories, possbly coloured by subsequent events.</ref>

	=== Chanel takes care of his correspondence ===		=== Chanel takes care of his correspondence ===

Jan: /* Futuna */

2009-01-16T20:33:12Z

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	:On 18 September Chanel baptized a sick child of Musumusu (a chief close to the king), it dies a week later. On 9 November a small son of Niuliki was seriously ill, Chanel baptized it with the consent of both father and mother, in a full baptismal ceremony in their presence. On 9 December he gave a Christian burial to a grandson of the King that he had baptized. People were moved to tears by the beautiful ritual and said they too wanted to be buried that way.<ref> Marie-Nizier, in a later account,(to Colin, 06.10.44 & 11.12.44, [[Girard0350\|LRO, doc. 350 [7] ]]) says that until the visit of Baty etc. things were alright but ‘that lasted only until the following August or September, when the King turned nasty towards us; first he left us alone, then he stopped giving us food, and forbad people to help us; in the end he told them to steal from us when they could, clothing, fruits of our garden, and that he would not take action against them’. His description does not agree at all with the overall picture that Chanel gives in the diary. Marie-Nizier may have meant August or September the following year (''suivant''), i.e., 1840, or he telescoped later memories, possibly coloured by subsequent events.</ref>		:On 18 September Chanel baptized a sick child of Musumusu (a chief close to the king), it dies a week later. On 9 November a small son of Niuliki was seriously ill, Chanel baptized it with the consent of both father and mother, in a full baptismal ceremony in their presence. On 9 December he gave a Christian burial to a grandson of the King that he had baptized. People were moved to tears by the beautiful ritual and said they too wanted to be buried that way.<ref> Marie-Nizier, in a later account,(to Colin, 06.10.44 & 11.12.44, [[Girard0350\|LRO, doc. 350 [7] ]]) says that until the visit of Baty etc. things were alright but ‘that lasted only until the following August or September, when the King turned nasty towards us; first he left us alone, then he stopped giving us food, and forbad people to help us; in the end he told them to steal from us when they could, clothing, fruits of our garden, and that he would not take action against them’. His description does not agree at all with the overall picture that Chanel gives in the diary. Marie-Nizier may have meant August or September the following year (''suivant''), i.e., 1840, or he telescoped later memories, possibly coloured by subsequent events. His letter of 29.07.45 repeats the same view, cf. [[Girard0390\|LRO, doc. 390 [37] ]] </ref>

	=== Chanel takes care of his correspondence ===		=== Chanel takes care of his correspondence ===

Jan: /* Futuna */

2009-01-16T16:57:18Z

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	:On 18 September Chanel baptized a sick child of Musumusu (a chief close to the king), it dies a week later. On 9 November a small son of Niuliki was seriously ill, Chanel baptized it with the consent of both father and mother, in a full baptismal ceremony in their presence. On 9 December he gave a Christian burial to a grandson of the King that he had baptized. People were moved to tears by the beautiful ritual and said they too wanted to be buried that way.<ref> Marie-Nizier, in a later account,(to Colin, 06.10.44 & 11.12.44, [[Girard0350\|LRO, doc. 350 [7] ]] says that until the visit of Baty etc. things were alright but ‘that lasted only until the following August or September, when the King turned nasty towards us; first he left us alone, then he stopped giving us food, and forbad people to help us; in the end he told them to steal from us when they could, clothing, fruits of our garden, and that he would not take action against them’. His description does not agree at all with the overall picture that Chanel gives in the diary. Marie-Nizier may have meant August or September the following year (''suivant''), i.e., 1840, or he telescoped later memories, possibly coloured by subsequent events.</ref>		:On 18 September Chanel baptized a sick child of Musumusu (a chief close to the king), it dies a week later. On 9 November a small son of Niuliki was seriously ill, Chanel baptized it with the consent of both father and mother, in a full baptismal ceremony in their presence. On 9 December he gave a Christian burial to a grandson of the King that he had baptized. People were moved to tears by the beautiful ritual and said they too wanted to be buried that way.<ref> Marie-Nizier, in a later account,(to Colin, 06.10.44 & 11.12.44, [[Girard0350\|LRO, doc. 350 [7] ]]) says that until the visit of Baty etc. things were alright but ‘that lasted only until the following August or September, when the King turned nasty towards us; first he left us alone, then he stopped giving us food, and forbad people to help us; in the end he told them to steal from us when they could, clothing, fruits of our garden, and that he would not take action against them’. His description does not agree at all with the overall picture that Chanel gives in the diary. Marie-Nizier may have meant August or September the following year (''suivant''), i.e., 1840, or he telescoped later memories, possibly coloured by subsequent events.</ref>

	=== Chanel takes care of his correspondence ===		=== Chanel takes care of his correspondence ===

Jan: /* Futuna */

2009-01-16T16:55:26Z

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	:On 18 September Chanel baptized a sick child of Musumusu (a chief close to the king), it dies a week later. On 9 November a small son of Niuliki was seriously ill, Chanel baptized it with the consent of both father and mother, in a full baptismal ceremony in their presence. On 9 December he gave a Christian burial to a grandson of the King that he had baptized. People were moved to tears by the beautiful ritual and said they too wanted to be buried that way.		:On 18 September Chanel baptized a sick child of Musumusu (a chief close to the king), it dies a week later. On 9 November a small son of Niuliki was seriously ill, Chanel baptized it with the consent of both father and mother, in a full baptismal ceremony in their presence. On 9 December he gave a Christian burial to a grandson of the King that he had baptized. People were moved to tears by the beautiful ritual and said they too wanted to be buried that way.<ref> Marie-Nizier, in a later account,(to Colin, 06.10.44 & 11.12.44, [[Girard0350\|LRO, doc. 350 [7] ]] says that until the visit of Baty etc. things were alright but ‘that lasted only until the following August or September, when the King turned nasty towards us; first he left us alone, then he stopped giving us food, and forbad people to help us; in the end he told them to steal from us when they could, clothing, fruits of our garden, and that he would not take action against them’. His description does not agree at all with the overall picture that Chanel gives in the diary. Marie-Nizier may have meant August or September the following year (''suivant''), i.e., 1840, or he telescoped later memories, possibly coloured by subsequent events.</ref>

	=== Chanel takes care of his correspondence ===		=== Chanel takes care of his correspondence ===

Merv at 02:55, 15 December 2008

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