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Merv at 05:36, 21 June 2009

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	:The oldest of the three Brothers on the team was '''Joseph Luzy''', born 2 March 1807 in Marboz (Ain), not far from Chanel`s home village. With his brother he had been a student at the minor seminary of his home town. When he found the studies too hard, he stayed on at the seminary as a ''factotum'', first in Marboz, later in Belley. Colin asked Champagnat if Joseph should not move to the Hermitage for further formation, but nothing came of it. It is not clear whether he volunteered or was invited, but in June or July he was added to the team for Oceania. In September, while the priests were in retreat in Belley, Joseph left Belley for Lyon and the Hermitage, where he did a retreat and immediately made his perpetual profession under the name of Joseph-Xavier, on 26 September 1836. He stayed on to attend the opening of the retreat on 2 October in the Hermitage, but left a day or two later later with Pompallier for Paris.<ref> Ronzon, ''Frères Maristes en Océanie'' (FMO), pp.10 – 16. In early July, Colin paid a visit to the Hermitage to discuss a project of joining the Marist teaching brothers with the ''Frères des Écoles Chrétiennes'', cf. LC, doc. 66. The two would have discussed the candidates for Oceania and it was not unlikely on that occasion that Joseph Luzy was added to the team~~. According to Ronzon (FMO, p. 11) there is some doubt as to whether he made his profession at the Hermitage, or had perhaps already done so in Belley~~.</ref>		:The oldest of the three Brothers on the team was '''Joseph Luzy''', born 2 March 1807 in Marboz (Ain), not far from Chanel`s home village. With his brother he had been a student at the minor seminary of his home town. When he found the studies too hard, he stayed on at the seminary as a ''factotum'', first in Marboz, later in Belley. Colin asked Champagnat if Joseph should not move to the Hermitage for further formation, but nothing came of it. It is not clear whether he volunteered or was invited, but in June or July he was added to the team for Oceania. In September, while the priests were in retreat in Belley, Joseph left Belley for Lyon and the Hermitage, where he did a retreat and immediately made his perpetual profession under the name of Joseph-Xavier, on 26 September 1836. He stayed on to attend the opening of the retreat on 2 October in the Hermitage, but left a day or two later later with Pompallier for Paris.<ref> Ronzon, ''Frères Maristes en Océanie'' (FMO), pp.10 – 16. ''Lettres Luzy'', to his parents, 08.10.36. In early July, Colin paid a visit to the Hermitage to discuss a project of joining the Marist teaching brothers with the ''Frères des Écoles Chrétiennes'', cf. LC, doc. 66. The two would have discussed the candidates for Oceania and it was not unlikely on that occasion that Joseph Luzy was added to the team.</ref>

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	: '''Antoine ~~Colomb~~''' was born in 1812 in Mottier (Ain). He joined the Marist Brothers in the Hermitage in 1831, and made his perpetual profession on 7 April 1834, as Brother Michel, -‘Brother of the Society of Mary’.<ref> FMO, p.16 - 22. APM, personal file. This was how the Brothers were called at that time in the register of professions of the Hermitage.</ref> He was selected for Oceania by Marcellin Champagnat.<ref> That Champagnat selected him would seem to follow from what Br. Michel wrote to him: '' ‘je remercie le Seigneur de m`avoir procuré une si belle vocation par votre entremise’, '' 17-05-1840, FMO, p. 17.</ref>		: '''Antoine Colombon''' was born in 1812 in Mottier (Ain). He joined the Marist Brothers in the Hermitage in 1831, and made his perpetual profession on 7 April 1834, as Brother Michel, -‘Brother of the Society of Mary’.<ref> FMO, p.16 - 22. APM, personal file. This was how the Brothers were called at that time in the register of professions of the Hermitage.</ref> He was selected for Oceania by Marcellin Champagnat.<ref> That Champagnat selected him would seem to follow from what Br. Michel wrote to him: '' ‘je remercie le Seigneur de m`avoir procuré une si belle vocation par votre entremise’, '' 17-05-1840, FMO, p. 17.</ref>


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	:There is no indication that either Pompallier, de Pins or Pastre, let alone Jean-Claude Colin, even considered having women on the team. Some Marist Sisters in Belley, Françoise Chanel for one, would have jumped at the occasion.<ref> Kerr, op. cit., p. 300. </ref> Colin mentioned the Sisters only after the men were on their way, telling Pompallier that they had decided to offer all their prayers and actions for the intention of the missionaries until the first message would come back from wherever they were on their journey.<ref> CS, doc. 5 [1].</ref> Peter Chanel thought it the most natural thing that the Sisters would follow them to Oceania. ‘We know only too well, he was to write later to Françoise, how interested you all are in our mission’.<ref> EC, docs. 31 [2] & 36 [2].</ref> In his last letter from le Havre he made a point of mentioning to Colin that there were Sisters in the group of missionaries leaving for New Orleans.<ref> EC, doc. 29 [1].</ref> He had already found in Le Havre a house where they could stay while waiting for the departure of their ship! He was also realistic enough to accept that as yet it was too early, but he did not forget to tell Françoise about the numerous Sisters’ convents they found in Valparaiso.<ref> EC, doc. 31 [2]. From Valparaiso to Françoise: ‘The bishop knows too little yet of his mission to invite a few Sisters of Our Lady’. The list of houses of the congregation of the Picpus Sisters gives 1838 as the founding year of their community in Valparaiso. EC, doc. 36 [1].</ref>		:There is no indication that either Pompallier, de Pins or Pastre, let alone Jean-Claude Colin, even considered having women on the team. Some Marist Sisters in Belley, Françoise Chanel for one, would have jumped at the occasion.<ref> Kerr, op. cit., p. 300. </ref> Colin mentioned the Sisters only after the men were on their way, telling Pompallier that they had decided to offer all their prayers and actions for the intention of the missionaries until the first message would come back from wherever they were on their journey.<ref> CS, doc. 5 [1].</ref> Peter Chanel thought it the most natural thing that the Sisters would follow them to Oceania. ‘We know only too well, he was to write later to Françoise, how interested you all are in our mission’.<ref> EC, docs. 31 [2] & 36 [2].</ref> In his last letter from le Havre he made a point of mentioning to Colin that there were Sisters in the group of missionaries leaving for New Orleans.<ref> EC, doc. 29 [1].</ref> He had already found in Le Havre a house where they could stay while waiting for the departure of their ship! He was also realistic enough to accept that as yet it was too early, but he did not forget to tell Françoise about the numerous Sisters’ convents they found in Valparaiso.<ref> EC, doc. 31 [2]. From Valparaiso to Françoise: ‘The bishop knows too little yet of his mission to invite a few Sisters of Our Lady’. The list of houses of the congregation of the Picpus Sisters gives 1838 as the founding year of their community in Valparaiso. EC, doc. 36 [1].</ref>



	=== Notes ===		=== Notes ===

Merv at 07:27, 15 December 2008

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Merv at 03:44, 20 September 2008

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Merv at 07:40, 12 February 2008

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Merv at 08:58, 27 January 2008

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	: '''Antoine Colomb''' was born in 1812 in Mottier (Ain). He joined the Marist Brothers in the Hermitage in ~~1931~~, and made his perpetual profession on 7 April ~~1934~~, as Brother Michel, -‘Brother of the Society of Mary’.<ref> FMO, p.16 - 22. APM, personal file. This was how the Brothers were called at that time in the register of professions of the Hermitage.</ref> He was selected for Oceania by Marcellin Champagnat.<ref> That Champagnat selected him would seem to follow from what Br. Michel wrote to him: '' ‘je remercie le Seigneur de m`avoir procuré une si belle vocation par votre entremise’, '' 17-05-1840, FMO, p. 17.</ref>		: '''Antoine Colomb''' was born in 1812 in Mottier (Ain). He joined the Marist Brothers in the Hermitage in 1831, and made his perpetual profession on 7 April 1834, as Brother Michel, -‘Brother of the Society of Mary’.<ref> FMO, p.16 - 22. APM, personal file. This was how the Brothers were called at that time in the register of professions of the Hermitage.</ref> He was selected for Oceania by Marcellin Champagnat.<ref> That Champagnat selected him would seem to follow from what Br. Michel wrote to him: '' ‘je remercie le Seigneur de m`avoir procuré une si belle vocation par votre entremise’, '' 17-05-1840, FMO, p. 17.</ref>

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Merv: /* Notes */

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