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Merv at 05:44, 21 June 2009

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Merv at 07:19, 15 December 2008

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Merv at 03:34, 20 September 2008

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Merv at 08:24, 12 February 2008

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Merv: /* An encouraging experience */

2008-02-04T08:06:09Z

An encouraging experience

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	:Pompallier chartered the ''Europa'' under Captain Shaw for 150 piastres per person to take them to Hawaii via the Gambier Islands. Compared to the ''Delphine'' it was not much of a ship, much smaller (250 tons against 329). As a consequence, the accommodation was more cramped. But the missionaries transferred their luggage, that had survived the voyage so far undamaged, and on 10 August they bravely boarded for the first leg of their long Pacific crossing. Peter Chanel and Joseph Luzy were seasick again for a week, but the others by now had their sea-legs.<ref> As Servant wrote later: “The perils of travelling at sea are more in the imagination of people thinking of it from afar, than in reality”. [[Girard0027\|LRO, doc. 27]] [5].</ref> Two Picpus priests, Father Maigret and Father Guilmard, and Brother Columban, (i.e. the Irishman James Murphy) sailed with the Marists: an opportunity for the Marists to improve their English. Having heard that English was understood by many Polynesians, and that English and American ships were about the only ones to sail the Pacific, they put a lot of effort into it, but found it difficult to get their tongues around the strange English vowels. Pompallier considered it necessary for the priests but saw little reason for the Brothers to learn it!<ref> LRO, docs [[Girard0012\|12] [182 & 183], [[Girard0021\|21]] [1], n.1 & [[Girard0023\|23]] [1]. </ref>		:Pompallier chartered the ''Europa'' under Captain Shaw for 150 piastres per person to take them to Hawaii via the Gambier Islands. Compared to the ''Delphine'' it was not much of a ship, much smaller (250 tons against 329). As a consequence, the accommodation was more cramped. But the missionaries transferred their luggage, that had survived the voyage so far undamaged, and on 10 August they bravely boarded for the first leg of their long Pacific crossing. Peter Chanel and Joseph Luzy were seasick again for a week, but the others by now had their sea-legs.<ref> As Servant wrote later: “The perils of travelling at sea are more in the imagination of people thinking of it from afar, than in reality”. [[Girard0027\|LRO, doc. 27]] [5].</ref> Two Picpus priests, Father Maigret and Father Guilmard, and Brother Columban, (i.e. the Irishman James Murphy) sailed with the Marists: an opportunity for the Marists to improve their English. Having heard that English was understood by many Polynesians, and that English and American ships were about the only ones to sail the Pacific, they put a lot of effort into it, but found it difficult to get their tongues around the strange English vowels. Pompallier considered it necessary for the priests but saw little reason for the Brothers to learn it!<ref> LRO, docs [[Girard0012\|12]] [182 & 183], [[Girard0021\|21]] [1], n.1 & [[Girard0023\|23]] [1]. </ref>

Merv: /* An encouraging experience */

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	:They visited the island of Mangareva, where they were met by the King sitting on top of a magnificent large raft. What they saw exceeded everything they already had heard from the Picpus Fathers. Large numbers of friendly converts, enjoying the excitement of foreign visitors in a display of musical exuberance and happy children trying out the French words they had picked up from the missionaries. Pompallier and Chanel, in their written accounts, could not get over the beautiful and placid people they met. Page after page their letters reflect amazement at the rapid and total transformation of people from – as they believed - being little more than savage cannibals to peaceful Christians, piously kneeling for a blessing from the bishops.<ref>[[Unlike most Polynesians, the people of the Gambier Islands did not have canoes but used rafts instead, even huge ocean-going ones. Perhaps the islands did not have the trees needed to build canoes. Cf. Laval, ''Mangareva'', p. 248. for Girard0021\|LRO, doc. 21]] [2 – 6]. EC, doc. 38 [1 – 6]. Wiltgen, op. cit., pp. 151f.</ref>		:They visited the island of Mangareva, where they were met by the King sitting on top of a magnificent large raft. What they saw exceeded everything they already had heard from the Picpus Fathers. Large numbers of friendly converts, enjoying the excitement of foreign visitors in a display of musical exuberance and happy children trying out the French words they had picked up from the missionaries. Pompallier and Chanel, in their written accounts, could not get over the beautiful and placid people they met. Page after page their letters reflect amazement at the rapid and total transformation of people from – as they believed - being little more than savage cannibals to peaceful Christians, piously kneeling for a blessing from the bishops.<ref>Unlike most Polynesians, the people of the Gambier Islands did not have canoes but used rafts instead, even huge ocean-going ones. Perhaps the islands did not have the trees needed to build canoes. Cf. Laval, ''Mangareva'', p. 248. for [[Girard0021\|LRO, doc. 21]] [2 – 6]. EC, doc. 38 [1 – 6]. Wiltgen, op. cit., pp. 151f.</ref>

Jan: /* An encouraging experience */

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	:They visited the island of Mangareva, where they were met by the King sitting on top of a magnificent large raft. What they saw exceeded everything they already had heard from the Picpus Fathers. Large numbers of friendly converts, enjoying the excitement of foreign visitors in a display of musical exuberance and happy children trying out the French words they had picked up from the missionaries. Pompallier and Chanel, in their written accounts, could not get over the beautiful and placid people they met. Page after page their letters reflect amazement at the rapid and total transformation of people from – as they believed - being little more than savage cannibals to peaceful Christians, piously kneeling for a blessing from the bishops.<ref>[[Unlike most Polynesians, the people of the Gambier Islands did not have canoes but used rafts instead, even huge ocean-going ones. Perhaps the islands did not have the trees needed to build canoes. Cf. Laval, Mangareva, p. 248. for Girard0021\|LRO, doc. 21]] [2 – 6]. EC, doc. 38 [1 – 6]. Wiltgen, op. cit., pp. 151f.</ref>		:They visited the island of Mangareva, where they were met by the King sitting on top of a magnificent large raft. What they saw exceeded everything they already had heard from the Picpus Fathers. Large numbers of friendly converts, enjoying the excitement of foreign visitors in a display of musical exuberance and happy children trying out the French words they had picked up from the missionaries. Pompallier and Chanel, in their written accounts, could not get over the beautiful and placid people they met. Page after page their letters reflect amazement at the rapid and total transformation of people from – as they believed - being little more than savage cannibals to peaceful Christians, piously kneeling for a blessing from the bishops.<ref>[[Unlike most Polynesians, the people of the Gambier Islands did not have canoes but used rafts instead, even huge ocean-going ones. Perhaps the islands did not have the trees needed to build canoes. Cf. Laval, ''Mangareva'', p. 248. for Girard0021\|LRO, doc. 21]] [2 – 6]. EC, doc. 38 [1 – 6]. Wiltgen, op. cit., pp. 151f.</ref>

Jan: /* An encouraging experience */

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	:They visited the island of Mangareva, where they were met by the King sitting on top of ~~his~~ magnificent large ~~canoe~~. What they saw exceeded everything they already had heard from the Picpus Fathers. Large numbers of friendly converts, enjoying the excitement of foreign visitors in a display of musical exuberance and happy children trying out the French words they had picked up from the missionaries. Pompallier and Chanel, in their written accounts, could not get over the beautiful and placid people they met. Page after page their letters reflect amazement at the rapid and total transformation of people from – as they believed - being little more than savage cannibals to peaceful Christians, piously kneeling for a blessing from the bishops.<ref>[[Girard0021\|LRO, doc. 21]] [2 – 6]. EC, doc. 38 [1 – 6]. Wiltgen, op. cit., pp. 151f.</ref>		:They visited the island of Mangareva, where they were met by the King sitting on top of a magnificent large raft. What they saw exceeded everything they already had heard from the Picpus Fathers. Large numbers of friendly converts, enjoying the excitement of foreign visitors in a display of musical exuberance and happy children trying out the French words they had picked up from the missionaries. Pompallier and Chanel, in their written accounts, could not get over the beautiful and placid people they met. Page after page their letters reflect amazement at the rapid and total transformation of people from – as they believed - being little more than savage cannibals to peaceful Christians, piously kneeling for a blessing from the bishops.<ref>[[Unlike most Polynesians, the people of the Gambier Islands did not have canoes but used rafts instead, even huge ocean-going ones. Perhaps the islands did not have the trees needed to build canoes. Cf. Laval, Mangareva, p. 248. for Girard0021\|LRO, doc. 21]] [2 – 6]. EC, doc. 38 [1 – 6]. Wiltgen, op. cit., pp. 151f.</ref>


	:The Marists had ample time to listen to the stories of the successful missionaries and felt enormously encouraged to see that in spite of the unknown difficulties and dangers that still might lie ahead, theirs too was not a ''mission impossible''. With Rouchouze Pompallier discussed at length the options before him. In the end Rouchouze laughed it all off, saying: ‘Wherever you will land up in the end, Bishop, it will be different from where you now think!’.<ref>[[Girard0026\|LRO, doc. 26]] [2]. Ronzon, ''Delorme'', p. 38.</ref> They delegated their faculties to each other, so that each bishop was empowered by the other to authorize his missionaries to work in the vicariate of the other, an arrangement that could be very convenient in case missionaries were expelled from one place or another.<ref> Wiltgen, op. cit., p. 152.</ref>		:The Marists had ample time to listen to the stories of the successful missionaries and felt enormously encouraged to see that in spite of the unknown difficulties and dangers that still might lie ahead, theirs too was not a ''mission impossible''. With Rouchouze Pompallier discussed at length the options before him. In the end Rouchouze laughed it all off, saying: ‘Wherever you will land up in the end, Bishop, it will be different from where you now think!’.<ref>[[Girard0026\|LRO, doc. 26]] [2]. Ronzon, ''Delorme'', p. 38.</ref> They delegated their faculties to each other, so that each bishop was empowered by the other to authorize his missionaries to work in the vicariate of the other, an arrangement that could be very convenient in case missionaries were expelled from one place or another.<ref> Wiltgen, op. cit., p. 152.</ref>


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