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	;[15]: Well, it seems the best would be to deposit this money first in one of the big London banks and send it then to one of the big Sydney banks, so that the time that this money would stay in the bank would buy back through interest the cost of transporting or exchange of money, or perhaps better, our Fathers, going through London, would take their money from the bank and would bring it here in cash. I mention big banks, because experience shows that private banks are not very stable, as shown by Wright’s bank.		;[15]: Well, it seems the best would be to deposit this money first in one of the big London banks and send it then to one of the big Sydney banks, so that the time that this money would stay in the bank would buy back through interest the cost of transporting or exchange of money, or perhaps better, our Fathers, going through London, would take their money from the bank and would bring it here in cash. I mention big banks, because experience shows that private banks are not very stable, as shown by Wright’s bank.
	;[16]: It really seems to me that it would be appropriate that the mission reserve be left here deposited in one of the general banks in Sydney. One of the main reasons is that the money there is not exposed to robbers, to fire, and it has besides all the safety measures that are desirable and possible in business. In Sydney everyone acts in this way. The businessmen don’t have money in their offices. They have an open credit at the bank, and when they pay someone, they quite simply give a voucher for so much payable at the bank. The clergy do this and this way of doing things is very convenient; when you deposit your money in a bank, you get a receipt for it. All the time this money remains deposited, gets 4 per cent (that is the least earning rate nowadays). If you keep the right to withdraw it when you wish, if you deposit it for at least 6 months, then the interest is higher. And if, in that time, you need money, well, I presume that in losing interest you can no doubt have it from the bank. Or what is better, you profit from the same credit you have, to make out a voucher payable in six months. I suppose the creditors will be happy with it, and you will not lose the interest from your money. I haven’t examined the matter. But it seems fairly certain that it is in this way permitted to put your money in the bank; even the most pious churchmen in these countries do not do otherwise, it seems.		;[16]: It really seems to me that it would be appropriate that the mission reserve be left here deposited in one of the general banks in Sydney. One of the main reasons is that the money there is not exposed to robbers, to fire, and it has besides all the safety measures that are desirable and possible in business. In Sydney everyone acts in this way. The businessmen don’t have money in their offices. They have an open credit at the bank, and when they pay someone, they quite simply give a voucher for so much payable at the bank. The clergy do this and this way of doing things is very convenient; when you deposit your money in a bank, you get a receipt for it. All the time this money remains deposited, gets 4 per cent (that is the least earning rate nowadays). If you keep the right to withdraw it when you wish, if you deposit it for at least 6 months, then the interest is higher. And if, in that time, you need money, well, I presume that in losing interest you can no doubt have it from the bank. Or what is better, you profit from the same credit you have, to make out a voucher payable in six months. I suppose the creditors will be happy with it, and you will not lose the interest from your money. I haven’t examined the matter. But it seems fairly certain that it is in this way permitted to put your money in the bank; even the most pious churchmen in these countries do not do otherwise, it seems.
	;[17]: The French consul in Sydney has given me the address of his banker in Paris: M Hérard, rue St Honoré, n°371. At the same time he told me that there was a firm that corresponded with M Hérard, and so that one could use these two firms; but I think the French consul should be thanked (Faramond is his name) This way of doing things is not, perhaps, as safe, and as well I am of the opinion that these two firms do very little business and, as well, that they do it through London. Which is more advantageous, is what I inquired about, and found that the consul sent a part of our correspondence mixed up with despatches to the French government. This consul seems to be a good man; he did his philosophy<ref>presumably meaning the first part of major seminary studies - translator’s note</ref> it seems, he even acknowledged he had been called to tonsure.<ref>official recognition of being a cleric - translator’s ~~noteM~~/ref> We owe, at Sydney, £59 – to Mr Joubert. His father-in-law owes us 100 of them, but Mr Joubert does not intend that the loans be mixed up and that there be compensation. We owe 9 or 10 pounds to a doctor at the Bay of Islands. Father Épalle did not have that note when he left. The Bank of New Zealand seems to me all the less secure as the affairs of this colony are less prosperous, and the little money in the country goes out of it to pay for the supplies that the ships bring.		;[17]: The French consul in Sydney has given me the address of his banker in Paris: M Hérard, rue St Honoré, n°371. At the same time he told me that there was a firm that corresponded with M Hérard, and so that one could use these two firms; but I think the French consul should be thanked (Faramond is his name) This way of doing things is not, perhaps, as safe, and as well I am of the opinion that these two firms do very little business and, as well, that they do it through London. Which is more advantageous, is what I inquired about, and found that the consul sent a part of our correspondence mixed up with despatches to the French government. This consul seems to be a good man; he did his philosophy <ref>presumably meaning the first part of major seminary studies - translator’s note</ref> it seems, he even acknowledged he had been called to tonsure.<ref>official recognition of being a cleric - translator’s note</ref> We owe, at Sydney, £59 – to Mr Joubert. His father-in-law owes us 100 of them, but Mr Joubert does not intend that the loans be mixed up and that there be compensation. We owe 9 or 10 pounds to a doctor at the Bay of Islands. Father Épalle did not have that note when he left. The Bank of New Zealand seems to me all the less secure as the affairs of this colony are less prosperous, and the little money in the country goes out of it to pay for the supplies that the ships bring.
	;[18]: If I didn’t think of it, people should do what St Francis Zavier recommended, that is, to get the children in the schools to pray for the missions. Along with this great saint, I believe that there are no better ways to get what we ask for. I have read recently in the Annals of the Propagation (it was the statement of a Jesuit) that a missionary living in a country, remaining in one spot, would be less fruitful in his work than when he went from country to country, from town to town, so truly living his call as an apostle. I read also (in the life of that saint), St Francis Xavier deliberated over leaving this or that place, I believe in the Indies, because he could not achieve fruit there, and the peoples did not provide it. These examples can be useful.		;[18]: If I didn’t think of it, people should do what St Francis Zavier recommended, that is, to get the children in the schools to pray for the missions. Along with this great saint, I believe that there are no better ways to get what we ask for. I have read recently in the Annals of the Propagation (it was the statement of a Jesuit) that a missionary living in a country, remaining in one spot, would be less fruitful in his work than when he went from country to country, from town to town, so truly living his call as an apostle. I read also (in the life of that saint), St Francis Xavier deliberated over leaving this or that place, I believe in the Indies, because he could not achieve fruit there, and the peoples did not provide it. These examples can be useful.
	;[19]: I have not yet clearly seen that our Brothers in these missions could not, on Sundays, for example, wear a habit that distinguished them from lay people; there are many reasons in favour of it. The edification which would arise from that for the people, even for the Protestants seems to me to be a great reason; it would be seen that those are good Brothers who are wholly devoted to God and not to money, as is customary here.		;[19]: I have not yet clearly seen that our Brothers in these missions could not, on Sundays, for example, wear a habit that distinguished them from lay people; there are many reasons in favour of it. The edification which would arise from that for the people, even for the Protestants seems to me to be a great reason; it would be seen that those are good Brothers who are wholly devoted to God and not to money, as is customary here.

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	;[73]: I have been told by the French consul in Sydney that he did nearly all his theology at the major seminary at Bordeaux.		;[73]: I have been told by the French consul in Sydney that he did nearly all his theology at the major seminary at Bordeaux.
	;[74]: Reverend Father, by means of the work I have suggested to you, let us unite ourselves with Ireland which has so much devotion to the Blessed Virgin. Sydney is a big town, Sydney is a town with wealth. Would you believe it, this town is now almost entirely lit by gas, its steamships ply the rivers and coasts.		;[74]: Reverend Father, by means of the work I have suggested to you, let us unite ourselves with Ireland which has so much devotion to the Blessed Virgin. Sydney is a big town, Sydney is a town with wealth. Would you believe it, this town is now almost entirely lit by gas, its steamships ply the rivers and coasts.
	;[75]; I believe it would be a good thing that if later on the bishop in New Zealand was British. In that situation we would be parish priests and curates. It seems to me that we would be better away from these places in New Zealand, responsible for our natives; I am almost sure that the British government would encourage our work and help us. In Sydney and in Australia, yes, not in New Zealand. This is not well thought out, let us get from the British government what we can. There you have my initial ideas without yet having thought them through well.		;[75]: I believe it would be a good thing that if later on the bishop in New Zealand was British. In that situation we would be parish priests and curates. It seems to me that we would be better away from these places in New Zealand, responsible for our natives; I am almost sure that the British government would encourage our work and help us. In Sydney and in Australia, yes, not in New Zealand. This is not well thought out, let us get from the British government what we can. There you have my initial ideas without yet having thought them through well.
	;[76]: I will take about half-a-dozen cows – some trees – cherries, apples, pears, olives, mulberries, perhaps a good vine, about 20 sheep, - flour, salt, soap – panes of glass, about half of what we need - we will put the glass in, in part, in little planks and blankets.		;[76]: I will take about half-a-dozen cows – some trees – cherries, apples, pears, olives, mulberries, perhaps a good vine, about 20 sheep, - flour, salt, soap – panes of glass, about half of what we need - we will put the glass in, in part, in little planks and blankets.
	;[77]: When you have an opportunity, please send these names to the Archconfraternity of the Sacred Heart of Mary: John Henrick, Cornelius O’Brien, Dudley Ceter, Victoire Ceter. Now please, enrol the following people into the Third Order of Mary: Eliza Boddison, Elizabeth Stafford.		;[77]: When you have an opportunity, please send these names to the Archconfraternity of the Sacred Heart of Mary: John Henrick, Cornelius O’Brien, Dudley Ceter, Victoire Ceter. Now please, enrol the following people into the Third Order of Mary: Eliza Boddison, Elizabeth Stafford.

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