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	;[68]: A quite poor establishment at Matamata; even the chapel, quite poor as it was, could not be finished until near the end of the year or the beginning of the following year. Purchase of about a third of an acre of land.		;[68]: A quite poor establishment at Matamata; even the chapel, quite poor as it was, could not be finished until near the end of the year or the beginning of the following year. Purchase of about a third of an acre of land.
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	;[68]: A quite poor establishment at Matamata; even the chapel, quite poor as it was, could not be finished until near the end of the year or the beginning of the following year. Purchase of about a third of an acre of land.		;[68]: A quite poor establishment at Matamata; even the chapel, quite poor as it was, could not be finished until near the end of the year or the beginning of the following year. Purchase of about a third of an acre of land.
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	;[83]: Our neophytes, once baptised, are not all saints: there are a good number, even, who give up worship and never approach the sacraments. There are others who always attend worship and who give rise to great scandals, for example, who take back one or several of their wives whom they abandoned at baptism or who fall into other great disorders against morals. But it needs to be remembered that these people are quite new in the faith, that they were quite recently polygamous and very immoral, that they are still exposed to frequent occasions of offending God by their nakedness (that is, their ragged way of dressing which easily lets everything be seen) and their wandering way of living, that they are witnesses to many scandals; and all the same I notice with consolation that all of that is being put right in due time, with the exception perhaps of the sin of renewed polygamy (and isn't concubinage, in European countries, a very difficult vice to root out?). There are even some of them who, having been baptised, confirmed, made their first confession and received holy Communion, have become Protestants, because these people live among Protestants, mix with Protestants, are related to, or allied with or dependent on Protestants, because the Protestants having come first, have gained moral influence, inasmuch as they come from the nation that governs the country, that they have this government for themselves, they have well produced books, they speak the language well etc. Then, these defections come from people who are more fickle than others, endowed with little judgment, strange or a little difficult in character; over inconsiderable things, little annoyances, antipathies between relatives, sometimes over causes of discontent which they believe have been the fault of the priest etc... These people are children, and they are often scandalised, really like children; you have to take care of them like children, calm them down, console them, again and again hunt them out, urge them to return to the Christian duties and bring them back; sometimes pretend, especially at the start of the defections, not to care about them, to abandon them, and then, after this first bout of stupidity has passed, when they are seen to be ashamed, visit them, and, sometimes through a great deal of effort (which is done for the love of God and out of consideration for children) you succeed in bringing back these straying sheep; then, little by little they set out again on the right way and do better than ever. Sometimes you have to overwhelm them with shame to get them to look at themselves, to burden them with deserved reproaches. Then overwhelmed, brought low, these people give in, if not at first because of a remnant of self love, at least soon. The others have to be caught through gentleness and tenderness. People are the same everywhere. I see that almost all of these apostates come back. They do not care about feast days: no outward worship, no confession; for Communion, a piece of bread, that mouthful of wine, without ceremony, without anything that speaks to the heart, all that sort of thing '''kills''' them; they stop attending Protestant worship. There is hardly anything but the shame of returning to overcome; it is not, in fact, glorious. The faithful Catholics make fun of them, have them on.<ref>? les goaillent</ref> So help them to overcome this unpleasant shame; try to visit them and you will have them back. It is a common saying here that the Catholics who become Protestants die, that is, they are punished with death by the good God, and there are many examples of former Catholics who, having become Protestants before there was a priest here, died suddenly or miserably at least. It was the natives who noticed that and drew it to my attention; one day they counted them in my presence. Truth convinces hearts here as it does everywhere; the faith is deep and ineffaceable: Naturam expellas furca, tamen usque recurret ["You may suppress nature with punishment, nevertheless it will return" -- a proverb of the Roman writer Horace. Underneath naturam Pézant wrote fidem – C Girard footnote]; it penetrates everywhere, even in these apostates, and that is what brings them back sooner or later. Truth convinces minds, it is only the passions which lead hearts astray. But faith remains.		;[83]: Our neophytes, once baptised, are not all saints: there are a good number, even, who give up worship and never approach the sacraments. There are others who always attend worship and who give rise to great scandals, for example, who take back one or several of their wives whom they abandoned at baptism or who fall into other great disorders against morals. But it needs to be remembered that these people are quite new in the faith, that they were quite recently polygamous and very immoral, that they are still exposed to frequent occasions of offending God by their nakedness (that is, their ragged way of dressing which easily lets everything be seen) and their wandering way of living, that they are witnesses to many scandals; and all the same I notice with consolation that all of that is being put right in due time, with the exception perhaps of the sin of renewed polygamy (and isn't concubinage, in European countries, a very difficult vice to root out?). There are even some of them who, having been baptised, confirmed, made their first confession and received holy Communion, have become Protestants, because these people live among Protestants, mix with Protestants, are related to, or allied with or dependent on Protestants, because the Protestants having come first, have gained moral influence, inasmuch as they come from the nation that governs the country, that they have this government for themselves, they have well produced books, they speak the language well etc. Then, these defections come from people who are more fickle than others, endowed with little judgment, strange or a little difficult in character; over inconsiderable things, little annoyances, antipathies between relatives, sometimes over causes of discontent which they believe have been the fault of the priest etc... These people are children, and they are often scandalised, really like children; you have to take care of them like children, calm them down, console them, again and again hunt them out, urge them to return to the Christian duties and bring them back; sometimes pretend, especially at the start of the defections, not to care about them, to abandon them, and then, after this first bout of stupidity has passed, when they are seen to be ashamed, visit them, and, sometimes through a great deal of effort (which is done for the love of God and out of consideration for children) you succeed in bringing back these straying sheep; then, little by little they set out again on the right way and do better than ever. Sometimes you have to overwhelm them with shame to get them to look at themselves, to burden them with deserved reproaches. Then overwhelmed, brought low, these people give in, if not at first because of a remnant of self love, at least soon. The others have to be caught through gentleness and tenderness. People are the same everywhere. I see that almost all of these apostates come back. They do not care about feast days: no outward worship, no confession; for Communion, a piece of bread, that mouthful of wine, without ceremony, without anything that speaks to the heart, all that sort of thing '''kills''' them; they stop attending Protestant worship. There is hardly anything but the shame of returning to overcome; it is not, in fact, glorious. The faithful Catholics make fun of them, have them on.<ref>? les goaillent</ref> So help them to overcome this unpleasant shame; try to visit them and you will have them back. It is a common saying here that the Catholics who become Protestants die, that is, they are punished with death by the good God, and there are many examples of former Catholics who, having become Protestants before there was a priest here, died suddenly or miserably at least. It was the natives who noticed that and drew it to my attention; one day they counted them in my presence. Truth convinces hearts here as it does everywhere; the faith is deep and ineffaceable: Naturam expellas furca, tamen usque recurret ["You may suppress nature with punishment, nevertheless it will return" -- a proverb of the Roman writer Horace. Underneath naturam Pézant wrote fidem – C Girard footnote]; it penetrates everywhere, even in these apostates, and that is what brings them back sooner or later. Truth convinces minds, it is only the passions which lead hearts astray. But faith remains.
	;[84]: Our newly baptised people love confession very much; when I go and visit the tribes, everyone goes to confession: children, old people, men, women; I have no time to breathe, in view of the short space of time I can stay in each little place. On feast days I have a lot to do here; I need several days to hear all my people, I have absolutely no time for myself. These poor people come to Communion with great simplicity and faith. But there is little observable devotion; they are people who are slow to show emotion and stolid, with little imagination. They are, therefore, firmer in faith than they seem, but nevertheless quite edifying. Generally they are steadfast in the faith, in spite of all the dangers of their situation. Our catechists are well enough informed to confound the Protestant ministers: they are very attached to our holy religion. So how great a grace it is to be born in the bosom of the true Church! God could never be thanked enough for it. But heresy needs to be seen close at hand, to be heard, its works and thinking to be observed, to better appreciate the gift of the true faith. I would have a lot to say about Protestants and Protestantism, unfortunately I have no more room. I will only say that here Catholics, heretics and pagans can be known by nothing more than their appearance. Catholics have a calm appearance, an open look, simple and honest; pagans look stiff and severe, Protestants, especially the most committed and zealous, look fierce, and as Erasmus said about the first reformers, they look like people who had just been concocting dark plots among themselves, and, I dare to say, people who had just killed a man. I say that especially about the new districts, new for us and old for the Protestants. Generally the Protestant natives of the Waikato are an exception. You can easily see that they do not have in them the spirit whose fruits are '''faith, goodness, love, kindness, gentleness, peace''' etc etc. These last, in our opinion, are violent people unbelievable in their fanaticism. I would have some strange things to mention.		;[84]: Our newly baptised people love confession very much; when I go and visit the tribes, everyone goes to confession: children, old people, men, women; I have no time to breathe, in view of the short space of time I can stay in each little place. On feast days I have a lot to do here; I need several days to hear all my people, I have absolutely no time for myself. These poor people come to Communion with great simplicity and faith. But there is little observable devotion; they are people who are slow to show emotion and stolid, with little imagination. They are, therefore, firmer in faith than they seem, but nevertheless quite edifying. Generally they are steadfast in the faith, in spite of all the dangers of their situation. Our catechists are well enough informed to confound the Protestant ministers: they are very attached to our holy religion. So how great a grace it is to be born in the bosom of the true Church! God could never be thanked enough for it. But heresy needs to be seen close at hand, to be heard, its works and thinking to be observed, to better appreciate the gift of the true faith. I would have a lot to say about Protestants and Protestantism, unfortunately I have no more room. I will only say that here Catholics, heretics and pagans can be known by nothing more than their appearance. Catholics have a calm appearance, an open look, simple and honest; pagans look stiff and severe, Protestants, especially the most committed and zealous, look fierce, and as Erasmus said about the first reformers, they look like people who had just been concocting dark plots among themselves, and, I dare to say, people who had just killed a man. I say that especially about the new districts, new for us and old for the Protestants. Generally the Protestant natives of the Waikato are an exception. You can easily see that they do not have in them the spirit whose fruits are '''faith, goodness, love, kindness, gentleness, peace''' etc etc. These last, in our opinion, are violent people unbelievable in their fanaticism. I would have some strange things to mention.

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