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	''~~September 27~~, ~~1842~~. Colin. ~~Conference during~~ the ~~general retreat~~. [Mayet 4, ~~138~~ = FS 60, 1]:''		''January 30, 1848. Colin. Remarks to the council on the question of approbation by the current government. [Mayet 7, 354 = FS 155, 4]:''

	:“Let each one work for the good of the Society by his conduct and his prayers. Look at the blessed Virgin! See how she hastened the coming of God by her burning desire. When she learned that she had been chosen to be his mother, what an effort she made to cooperate! When Jesus Christ was born, he was the object of all her thoughts and affections. After his death, her sole thought was the extension and development of the mystery of the Incarnation. That is the sign by which, precisely, you can recognize a Marist. But this desire must be prudent. He does not turn away vocations, but encourages them. If he sees about him someone who could profitably work in the Society of Mary, he will perhaps say a word or two, but without departing from the spirit of the Society. This concern, Messieurs, this interest and attachment, should extend to the other branches of the Society: we all form one body. Without any collusion, everything appeared at the same time and without effort. Let us then love the family that God has given us.”


			:““Messieurs, the Church conducts its business and deals with this government. Let us do as the Church does. The times we live in are in a way worse than those of the apostles. Nevertheless, the apostles said nothing, went about their business, and worked for the Church. I shall touch up the Rule and I intend to forbid anything connected with politics. It is up to the bishops to take the initiative. We are auxiliary troops, which does not prevent us doing great good, but on the contrary is the means to it.”

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			''June 4, 1826. Courveille. Letter to the community at the Hermitage, praising the Trappist monastery of Aiguebelle, where he is living. [OM 152, 8]:''

			:I have not been less struck by that perfect union that reigns among them, by that charity, worthy of the first times of the Church, which makes all Christians ''one heart and one soul'', by that holy kindness they have for one another, by that continual attention to help one another on all occasions; they never meet without greeting each other with a profound inclination of the head, always in a great silence; it is easy to see after all that they have for each other a great respect and a love worthy of the true disciples of Jesus Christ. Which makes me say with the psalmist: ''Behold how good and how pleasant where brothers dwell as one.''

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	''September 25, ~~1844~~. ~~Mayet and~~ Colin. ~~Conversation, noted in margin next to~~ the ~~1837 text~~. [~~Coste text C =~~ Mayet 1, ~~11m~~ = OM ~~582~~ = FS ~~4, 2~~]: ''		''September 18, 1838. Colin. To the Marists of Belley. [Mayet 1, 9 = OM 430 = FS 10]:''

	:On ~~September 25~~, ~~1844~~, ~~I said~~ to ~~him: “It seems~~ that the ~~great number of wonders worked by the blessed Virgin forebode the end of the world~~, ~~for devotion to Mary~~ is ~~usually~~ the ~~last resort of Divine Providence when It wants~~ to ~~lead back~~ a ~~sinner~~.” “Yes,” he ~~replied~~, ~~'' “I was~~ the ~~support~~ of the ~~newborn~~ Church~~; I shall be so as well at the end of time~~..~~. ''~~ ~~These words~~ have ~~presided over~~ the ~~first beginnings of the Society~~.”		:On his return from that retreat, he said, “Nevertheless, it is to Belley, this little corner, that the most important letters arrive from Rome and elsewhere, and it is from this little spot among the mountains that they go out. Who would have believed it? Who would have believed that the Society would come to birth in this corner?” Someone remarked, “No order has ever begun like this in a small town.” “Yes there was one,” he said, “but only one: the order of the Church. Nazareth was its cradle. Jesus, Mary and Joseph: there you have the Church coming into being. It began there.”



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	''~~October 26, 1844~~. Colin. ~~Inserted by Mayet after the 1837 text~~. [~~Coste text D =~~ Mayet 1, 11 = OM ~~422~~, c = FS 4, 3]: ''		''1838-1839. Colin. Context not indicated. [Mayet 1, 19 = OM 453, 1 = FS 20, 1]: ''

	:~~On October 26~~, ~~1844~~, ~~he repeated those words~~ and ~~said:~~ ~~“It~~ is ~~now about thirty years ago that that was said to a priest~~.”		:“The early days of the Society are like those of the Church. At one moment circumcision is permitted, later it is forbidden; at one moment eating of meat sacrificed to idols is permitted, later it is not. Little by little things become established, and discipline is worked out and becomes uniform only with the passage of time. It is the same in the Society.”


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	''~~1844~~. ~~Mayet~~. ~~Personal remark on Colin’s manner of speaking about the origins of the S.M~~. [~~Coste text E = Mayet 5, 391-392 =~~ OM ~~591~~, 2]: ''		''May 18, 1840. Champagnat. Spiritual Testament. [OM 417, 3]:''

	:~~Whenever he (Fr. Colin) talked intimately about our origins~~, ~~he would do so in broken~~ and ~~mysterious words which I~~ have ~~often recorded~~, ~~for instance: “The first picture of the Society was given under~~ the ~~emblem~~ of ~~a three-branch tree~~...~~;” or again:~~ ~~“The blessed Virgin has~~ said: ~~‘I was~~ the ~~support~~ of ~~the newborn Church; I shall be so~~ at ~~the end~~ of ~~time~~, ~~etc.~~, ~~etc~~.’”		:I also beg you, my very dear Brothers, with all the affection of my soul and by all the affection you have for me, keep ever alive among you the charity of Christ. Love one another as Jesus Christ has loved you. Let there be among you but one same heart and one same spirit. Let them say of the Little Brothers of Mary as they said of the first Christians: “See how they love one another!” ... That is the most ardent desire of my heart at this last moment of my life. Yes, my dearest Brothers, hear these last words of your Father; they are those of our most beloved Savior: Love one another.

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			''Spring 1841. Colin. Remarks to Mayet. [Mayet 1, 286 = FS 42, 3]:''

	~~''December 1845~~. ~~Colin~~. ~~Conference~~ to ~~scholastics preparing~~ for ~~profession~~; ~~items recorded by~~ one ~~of them~~. ~~[Coste text F (+) = Mayet 5~~, ~~6942-695]~~: ''		:“If the world speaks against us, we should not be surprised. The apostles were not liked by the rich, or those with power: they turned to poor people like themselves. Then God raised up a Saint Paul, full of magnanimity and afraid of nothing, who turned his attention to everyone. They were right in saying that he was not lettered, that he did not speak well: it did not matter... He did not concern himself with what people said about him. As for ourselves, we do not take any congregation for our model, we have no other model than the new-born Church. The Society began like the Church; we must be like the apostles and those who joined them and were already numerous: ''One heart and one soul''. They loved each other like brothers. And then, ah! no one knows what devotion the apostles had for the blessed Virgin! What tenderness for this divine mother! How they had recourse to her! Let us imitate them: let us see God in everything.”

	~~;[1]: “Just as Jesus spent three years forming his apostles, so Mary takes three years to form us during the time of our theological studies.”~~
	;[2]: “Jesus left his mother with his newborn Church to form it in its cradle. She reappears at the end of time to call in those who have not yet entered its bosom and to lead back to it those who have left.”
	;[3]: “We should not be astonished if Mary takes a lot of time to make her Society numerous. Jesus Christ, who was God, had only five hundred disciples when he left the earth, after having traversed Judea, after having given sight to the blind, hearing to the deaf, and done so many miracles.”

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			''March 1842. Mayet, summary of his findings to date on the origins of the Society of Mary. [Mayet 1, 735 = OM 535, 24 and addition k]:''

	~~''September 23, 1846. Colin. Table talk at Puylata two days after the general retreat. [Coste text G (+) = Mayet 4, 520f = OM 631 = FS 117, 2f]: ''~~		;[24]: “The clergy was opposed to the Marists, and so they ought,” Fr. Colin used to say with humility. There were those who said: “It is the second volume of the Jesuits bound in ass’s hide.” Others accused them of being Jansenists. People mocked them and no one reproached the mockers.
			;[Addition k]: In effect, the first members were quite poor. “The Society began like the Church,” Fr. Colin used to say.
	;[2]: ~~“As for miracles, ah, nowadays miracles are useless;~~ the ~~world does not believe in them. Prince von Hohenlohe worked a great many a few years ago. What notice did anyone take of them? Nowadays people do not talk about them~~, ~~because unbelief~~ and ~~indifference are everywhere~~. ~~As the end of time draws nearer, the faith is disappearing~~. ~~Would you not say that we are in the days of which our Lord~~ said~~, ‘Do you think~~ the ~~Son~~ of ~~Man will then find much faith on~~ the ~~earth?’~~ ~~Messieurs, I am no prophet, but it seems to me that the end~~ of ~~time is not far off~~. ~~The human race appears to me today to be like an old stump,~~ one ~~whose roots have been eaten into by a worm. That worm is~~ the ~~unbelief, the indifference which has made the world pagan for a second time~~.”
	;[3]: ~~“As for us, Messieurs~~, ~~we must reproduce the faith of~~ the first ~~believers. That is precisely what was foretold from our very beginning (he uttered these words in a somewhat mysterious and uneasy manner)~~. ~~It was foretold that the~~ Society ~~of Mary was not to model itself on any of~~ the ~~bodies which have preceded it; no~~, ~~nothing of all that; but that our model, our only model, must be and was the early Church~~. ~~And the blessed Virgin, who then did such great things, will do still greater ones at the end of time, because the human race will be even more ill~~.”

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	== ~~Mary, the Support of the~~ Church ==		== The Newborn Church ==

	=== Introduction===		=== Introduction===
	~~Jean-Claude~~ Colin ~~often spoke~~ of ~~Mary as~~ the ~~support~~ of the ~~Church at the beginning and at~~ the ~~end. This seems to be his way~~ of ~~referring to~~ the ~~inspiration Courveille experienced at Le Puy. Presented here is~~ the dossier ~~of texts gathered by J. Coste, S.M.,~~ in ~~''Acta Societatis Mariae''~~, ~~vol. 5, pp. 264-271~~. ~~In several cases a wider context is offered than was needed for Coste’s purposes. These~~ are ~~marked with a (+)~~ in ~~the apparatus.~~ At the ~~end of the dossier is added a text of Fr. Peter Julian Eymard that also speaks of~~ Mary as the ~~support of the Church~~.		Gathered here are all the texts in which Colin or other early Marists speak of the early Church, with the exception of those already contained in the above dossier on “Mary, the Support of the Church,” and in the dossier “At the End as in the Beginning,” to be found further below. The texts here are presented in two sections: “Our only model: the early Church” and “Our models: Mary and the apostles.”


			=== Our only model: the early Church ===

	~~=== The support of the newborn Church and at the end of time ===~~

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	=~~===Text 3====~~		''April 8-14, 1838. Colin. Conversation at table. [Mayet 1, 29 = OM 425, 1-6]:''

	~~''c. 1839. Colin. Conversation with Mayet.~~ [~~Coste text B (+) = Mayet~~ 1~~, 458f = OM 482, 1-3~~]: ''		;[1]: “Twelve of us signed a brief formulary.
			;[2]: “The Society does not take any other as a model. The beginnings of the Society are like those of the Church. Those who began it were without learning, without talents.
	:~~“In our little chapel in Belley, I want to place St~~. ~~Francis Regis and St. Francis Xavier, the first to be the patron~~ of the ~~Marist missionaries in the countryside, the other to be the patron of the Marist missionaries in the towns. We~~ are ~~the younger brothers~~ of the ~~Jesuits~~. ~~There ought to be a strong union between the Jesuits and the Marists~~. ~~This has already begun~~; ~~I am very happy about~~ it~~. The Jesuits look upon us with~~ the ~~greatest pleasure~~. ~~This~~, ~~I think~~, ~~is due in part~~ to the ~~revelations which have been made concerning the Marists; the Jesuits do much spiritual direction, and I know that they have received confidences about a number of these revelations~~.” ~~He then repeated to me what~~ he ~~had told us about this revelation where Mary~~ said: ~~“I was~~ the ~~support of the newborn Church~~; ~~I shall be so in the last times~~.”		;[3]: “But it is necessary that the others seek to become educated.
			;[4]: “An educated man will produce more fruit than one who is holier, provided however that he has the spirit of God, because God wants us to use the ordinary means.” (Another time he said: “Of two men who are equally holy, the more learned one will produce more fruit.”)
			;[5]: “Oh! you young men, you must seek an education; use every opportunity; but don’t rely on that, otherwise!...
			;[6]: “Only four persevered.”

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	:“In our little chapel in Belley, I want to place St. Francis Regis and St. Francis Xavier, the first to be the patron of the Marist missionaries in the countryside, the other to be the patron of the Marist missionaries in the towns. We are the younger brothers of the Jesuits. There ought to be a strong union between the Jesuits and the Marists. This has already begun; I am very happy about it. The Jesuits look upon us with the greatest pleasure. This, I think, is due in part to the revelations which have been made concerning the Marists; the Jesuits do much spiritual direction, and I know that they have received confidences about a number of these revelations.” He then repeated to me what he had told us about this revelation where Mary said: “I was the support of the newborn Church; I shall be so in the last times.”		:“In our little chapel in Belley, I want to place St. Francis Regis and St. Francis Xavier, the first to be the patron of the Marist missionaries in the countryside, the other to be the patron of the Marist missionaries in the towns. We are the younger brothers of the Jesuits. There ought to be a strong union between the Jesuits and the Marists. This has already begun; I am very happy about it. The Jesuits look upon us with the greatest pleasure. This, I think, is due in part to the revelations which have been made concerning the Marists; the Jesuits do much spiritual direction, and I know that they have received confidences about a number of these revelations.” He then repeated to me what he had told us about this revelation where Mary said: “I was the support of the newborn Church; I shall be so in the last times.”



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